Fort Lee BOE Shuffles School Principals
The Fort Lee Board of Education approved a resolution calling for a “restructuring” of administrative staff. Several principals change schools; Priscilla Church to stay at high school.
When school reopens in the fall, students at Fort Lee High School, School No. 2 and School No. 4 will be greeted by the same principals their schools had the previous year. But the same can’t be said for students at Fort Lee School No. 3, Lewis F. Cole Middle School, School No. 1 and the Fort Lee Early Childhood Center (FLECC).
That’s because the Fort Lee Board of Education Monday approved a walk-in resolution restructuring the district’s administrative staff, assigning three current principals to different schools and moving someone who wasn’t a principal during the 2011-2012 school year but who has an administrative certificate to FLECC to serve as on-site administrator.
The administrative assignments for the 2012-2013 school year approved by the board are as follows:
- School No. 1 – Former middle school principal Rosemary Giacomelli
- School No. 2 – No change (Marianela Martin, principal)
- School No. 3 – Former FLECC principal Jay Berman
- School No. 4 – No change (Peter Emr, principal)
- Lewis F. Cole Middle School – Former School No. 3 principal Robert Kravitz
- Fort Lee High School – No change (Priscilla Church, principal)
- FLECC – Director of Special Education Ann Marie Bruder, supervisor
Superintendent of Schools Steven Engravalle called it an “administrative restructuring proposal” that he presented to the board in executive session Monday and said, “I would imagine that a lot of folks are here tonight to talk about that.”
Engravalle said he heard from a lot of people over the weekend expressing concerns about rumors they’d heard, though he noted that he had conversations with the staff members involved last week “because I wanted to talk to individuals.”
“This proposal that I put forth to the Board of Education is for one reason and one reason only,” Engravalle said. “As a professional educator, it is my best professional recommendation of how we can utilize the expert staff that we have in this district for the best benefit of the children of Fort Lee.”
Engravalle acknowledged that while many people may not agree with the plan or parts of it, “I am paid to do a job, and that job is to give you my best professional recommendation.”
“Part of what helped me make the decision for this restructuring proposal is how to utilize the strengths of each individual,” Engravalle said.
One of the rumors circulating that had a lot of people concerned was that Church would no longer be the principal of the high school, but that turned out not to be the case, much to the relief of Fort Lee resident Anna Szterenfeld, among others.
“I think many people in this room will be extremely relieved to see that you are leaving the high school administration in place,” Szterenfeld said. “Priscilla Church has the confidence and support of most of the parents in the high school. She’s done an exceptional job in the last two years.”
Szterenfeld praised Church for “setting the ship right” at the school “after years of scandal” and “revolving-door administrators.”
“You finally have a leader in place who’s implementing a plan and a long-term vision for the high school, and I think you got it right on this one,” she said.
Answering another concern, Engravalle explained that appointing Bruder as site supervisor of FLECC does not mean the board will now need to hire another director of special education, and that it does not “change the scope” of Bruder’s responsibilities.
“The principal of FLECC is the principal of School 1,” Engravalle said. “Each building requires someone with an administrative certificate to be present on-site during school hours. So at this point, the structure is to place not a principal, but someone on-site with an administrative certificate to meet the requirements of law.”
Giacomelli said her move to School No. 1 was “not a voluntary move for me,” but she said she did speak with Engravalle about the move and accepted it.
“My love and passion is middle school,” Giacomelli said. “I do love the age group at the middle school, but it will be fine.”
Giacomelli added, “We’ll have a good time, the kids will be great and anyone here that has an elementary student going to School No. 1, not to worry; it will be a very successful time for them.”
She also said she hoped the faculty at her new school would embrace her.
Patch will have more on Monday's Fort Lee Board of Education meeting.
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Luca D.
12:44 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
It sounds like the Superintendent can now concentrate on getting down to the business of deploying his staff for maximum efficiency. It's refreshing to see that the bickering has ceased and the healing has begun.
Judy
7:54 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Luca, the bickering was epic. Luppino's behavior was embarrassing to say the least.
Tracy Mattei
9:38 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
So were MANY other people's behavior-- I do not understand why adults would conduct themselves like that.
Luca D.
2:16 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Well it's good to see business as usual in the District. If the individuals who are set on devisiveness focused that same energy on volunteering on behalf of the District, I guarantee everyone's goals would be met promptly and efficiently.
Tracy Mattei
9:38 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
The behavior as a whole was epic. Its hard to agree on anything when there are two different focuses, two different goals --
BOE= education and the children (note the new curriculum and all that construction going on, benefiting our children).
Gallery last night and of late= all about being obstructionists and defiant with a glaring and continued LACK of focus on the children (they are more interested in tripping up the BOE for minutes, commas and last names, than the education/care of our children).
I simply do not understand why there is such antagonistic and and short sighted, destructive behavior.
OUR CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER FROM THE PARENTS, CITIZENS, and those employees who choose to be present at the meetings, moaning and groaning. There are FAR better ways of inspiring change and working together for a common goal, (and to employees- there are other more suitable ways of airing grievances, follow them, do not use your parents as sounding boards, its unprofessional). At some point the gallery has to understand that they are undermining and weakening their own arguments. There are valid and notable concerns but they get lost in irratic and flaring emotions.
Tracy Mattei
9:38 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Mrs Giacomelli needs to STOP! boo hoo! she got a transfer, instead of being so defiant,so angry all the time, just make the change. The tone of your unsolicited comments last night alienated S1, and those parents should be concerned about your lack of professionalism, seething lack of respect for your supervisors. Acknowledging how much you will miss the MS but are looking forward to S1 would have been appropriate, not "my boss is making me do it, even though I don't want to but I will' attitude.
Erin McCoy
11:39 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I do not have any children at the middle school yet, and have no personal knowledge or relationship with Mrs. Giacomelli, but I was present at the meeting last night. I think your characterization of her comments is misguided. She was honest and sincere. She was surprised with an unexpected and unwanted transfer. I think she has every right to say it was not voluntary, and it does not diminish in any way the effort that she will put forth at school one. Nor do I think the parents of school one were alienated. Frankly, you seem very harsh.
Ryan
1:04 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
your just a nasty woman with no life. Get one. Obviously she was upset because she likes her job. Granted she probably shouldn't have said anything but she is a passionate woman that speaks her mind. He doesn't like her and it sucks. He fires two of her good teachers and then transfer her. Oh well, she will be fine and will do a great job at school 1 like she did the middle school.
Tracy Mattei
1:13 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Oh my...
@Ryan "she probably shouldn't have said anything "--this is my point. It was she who chose to grandstand, it was unprofessional at best. You do not know me, and you may end up with my children one day, you also need to be professional. My expectations are high for adminstrators and teachers---because I know what it takes and how damaging airing greivances can damage effectiveness.
@Erin- I understand why you think I was harsh if you have no back story or any facts other than observing the incident. Just a short explanation, the MS is a failing school. That is trouble in the world of adminstrators and is the largest objective measure of how effective an adminstrator is, it not perfect but its what we have-- dismissing that is nothing but self serving for her. You should be concerned whether that school can turn around in time for your kids. As far as Giacomelli, she should be 'honest' and sincere, and complain to her friends, not the parents, NOT the students, not other employees and not the people whom she works for; reassurance and positive professional behavior was the way to go, not jabs at the boss. Its tolerance of behavior that has driven complacency and blurred line of personal and professional relationships.--- a BOE meeting is NOT the place for any employee to do that. She did alienate S1 parents, because a speaker got up and said "I know you don't want to come..."
Erin McCoy
10:42 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Sorry Tracy, I just disagree with you regarding what Mrs. Giacomelli said and how it was received. Also, I understand that there are problems at the middle school, and I am a huge fan of Mr. Kravitz, based on my very limited interactions with him (I am a school 2 parent). I think, however, that focusing on whether Mrs. Giacomelli was "insubordinate" to her "boss" loses sight of the fact that at the end of the day, the superintendent and the board are both just rungs on a ladder. ALL of these people are ultimately accountable to us: the parents, the taxpayers, and the voters. I am glad to have information about who is doing what and where they stand, so that when we meet with success (hopefully) or failure, I will know who I want to keep and who I want to let go ...
Tracy Mattei
9:41 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012
Erin-
We can just agree to disagree. I appreciate your thoughts and hope you will return to a good debate again.
Deb Fein
9:42 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
All I can say is thank the lord, the high school has been spared! ((Huge sigh of relief)).
Ottmar Pak
10:24 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Just curious when was the last time Fort Lee shuffled principals like this?
Tracy Mattei
11:09 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
The last time we had a non-performing school.
Ottmar Pak
12:54 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Tracy, did it work last time?
Tracy Mattei
3:21 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
it worked to get that school out of trouble, and then there has been a lot more changes that have worked--the HS, S4, S2 --- we just have Patch now to see it unfold closer to real time :-)
Things will settle down and as Mr. Engravalle stated last night---its the strengths of each adminstrator that match the needs of the schools. I hope the Admistrators can let go of the past and fodge ahead with those strengths.
Anna
10:47 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Tracy I disagree. I did not think Mrs Giacomelli conducted herself inappropriately. She spoke the truth and admitted the decision wasn't hers, as everyone in the room knew, but assured parents and staff of School 1 that she was ready and willing and comitted to do the best job possible and thereby allayed their concerns. I don't know why they should feel alienated, they are getting a popular and well-regarded principal. The ones who should be real worried are the parents and staff of School 3, who seem to be getting short shrift here.
Tracy Mattei
11:09 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Anna-- I think she should have said nothing or only a remark that she will miss the MS but looking forward to a new challenge. Her tone was inappropriate almost malicious towards her boss, it was unprofessional at best. I am appalled by any employee who decides to use the public forum as a means of defense or greivance, soapbox or anything of the like, it creates a hysteria that is unproductive, and self serving.
Tracy Mattei
11:13 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Why do you think Berman and S3 is getting the short end? Didn't people like Berman when he was at the HS?
Luca D.
2:21 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
There was no reason for a Principal to broadcast that she is being forced to take over another position. It sends the wrong message to all concerned. This is yet another example of individuals putting themselves before the good of the District.
Paul Umrichin
11:44 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Tracy I agree with you wholeheartedly. I felt it was very unprofessional of many of the staff members at the meeting. There are better ways to air your grievances. In a public forum in pitchfork and torch style is not it. Whether or not the teachers or administrators like it Mr. Engravalle is thier boss and we have placed him with the task of making our schools more productive. They should step back and work with him to make the district better instead of chastising him(THIER BOSS)in unison hiding behind thier tenure. If that happened in a corporation he would be handing out final paychecks to those employees today. People complain that his tact and personality are abrasive but it's not in his job description that he needs to be nice, which most of the time he is. It is his job to manage the school district how he sees will benefit the kids. All the schools are lucky to have the principles they do. Each and everyone of them are dedicated to the students and will make thier schools shine.
Paul Umrichin
11:54 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
The inappropriate behavior was not only on the teachers though. The gallery needs to start behaving and speaking to the board as people not petulant children. Congratulations Mr. Park for completing extra training hours for your position. People need to remember these are regular community members that wanted to help our kids and Borough. They have no formal training prior, just like every board in the state of New Jersey. They are learning as they go as well. If you would like to correct mistakes like punctuation send an email, it's a waste of time at a meeting and if caught quick enough can be fixed before the meeting. Procedure and protocol can also be discussed in a more friendly manner as well. Basically there is no need for someone to say to me that because of these meetings and the way people act they are ashamed to be part of this community.
carol simon
1:08 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
It appears that the shuffling was well thought out and pragmatic. With Ann Marie Bruder taking on the the position of site position at FLECC, will this be combined with Special Services Director or will her position be open or eliminated? Ms. Bruder has made a difference in overall Special Education Services at a crucial time in educational times. I hope she will not be marginalized as a site supervisor when her overview of the complexities ahead are needed and valuable.
Maureen
2:57 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Carol, I agree with you 100% in reference to Ann Marie Bruder. She has also taken our district out of the stone ages and improved Special Education in our district immensely! I too am concerned. The new position that is being created has many of her responsiblities listed in the job description. It makes one wonder what the future plans for her are. It will be another shame. I am certainley one to embrace change when it is needed. But like the old saying says, "if it aint broke, dont fix it"
Maureen Stitham
Tracy Mattei
1:17 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Annemarie Bruder is the best thing that has happened to Special Ed in twenty years here in Ft Lee. I look forward to her ideas and innovations, and will support always support her position in our district.
Maureen
1:46 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Tracy, I also disagree with you and agree with Anna. Mrs. Giacomelli was not insubordinate by getting up and speaking. If you read her quotes in the article above, she did not say anything to alienate the School 1 parents or to disrespect anyone. She spoke from the heart. I have two children in the school district. My older son graduated from FLHS last year so I have experience with ALL of the administrators and I must tell you that Rosemary Giacomelli was and is by far an exceptional principal. She was the first priincipal to ever treat my son equally and fairly in regards to his developmental disabilites. When my son attended the MS, I as a parent felt a sense of relief for the first time knowing he was in very good hands. It was the best two years of his education and I give Rosemary all of the credit! Secondly, it is apparent by your statement in regards to Jay Berman, that you have not been in this district long enough to make the proper judgements to our principals. My experiences with Jay Berman was anything but good. Unless your child was an AP student, he did not want anything to do with you or your child. I had requested, on two seperate occasions, a meeting with him to discuss the constant mistakes being made in my sons schedule, IEP requirements, etc, and lack of help I was receiving. He would never meet with me. He pawned me off to other staff that were no help whatsoever, because they did not do their jobs appropriately under his leadership.
Tracy Mattei
3:13 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Maureen,
I am happy to hear that you had a good experience with Mrs. Giacomelli (mine is different). It goes to support what she is capable of and the good that she has done--- I would prefer her to keep that as active commentary rather than what has been going on over the past few months. Her tone, and please note that tone is different than the words qouted, was unprofessional last night, and just unacceptable for me.
In regards to Bermam, I knew about him long before the grade changing incident and my comments you disliked are actually questions, (not statements). You would be surprised what you hear /understand when you study education as a discipline---
But what other choice did the BOE have? keep him at the pre-school, when his salary is huge?
Is it the best scenario? no. Is it best practice at this point in time, yes. In all possibilities, Kravitz would be replaced--his skills are greatly needed in the MS. He pulled S3 out of jeopardy and will do the same for MS.
The staff and teachers at school 3 will persevere and so will the MS and S1--- they simply will accept change and work with a new boss. I have all the faith in the world in them.
Maureen
2:00 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
On one back to school night as I was simply passing him in the hallway, I smiled to say hello and he put his hand in my face and said your son is special Ed, go deal with the CST. At a PTA meeting he actually stood up and spoke about how he was trying to get all special ed students exempt from taking the HESPA so as to bring up the state scores for the school and referred to "these studsents as lazy". I was shocked and appalled to say the least. This is just the tip of the iceburg with this man. I could go on for days with stories of unprofessionalism and scandal, yes I said it, scandal. He may have been aquited but I know otherwise. My heart does go out to the School 3 community. I can only hope that his time as the FLECC principal has softend his heart and changed him for the better. Also, your statement in regards to the parents being a linch mob is a bit exagerated. The parents, of course, will become emotional and passionate in regards to their children and their education. It is only natural. Especially when they are slapped in the face at the last minute with these changes and not allowed to have to time to process or absorb it before the meetings. So they are naturally put on the defense. I do agree with you in regards to the nit picking of minutes, etc. But as you may have noticed, those complaints were mostly from people without children in the system now. Let's stop picking people apart and start working for the common good of our kids!!!
Deb Fein
3:41 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Maureen: I can absolutely understand where you are coming from. I had one run in with him when my older son was at the high school about a certain unexpert math teacher who they wanted to put him with for the second year in a row. I threatened to go to Richardson about that. Much relief that Berman was gone once my younger son was in high school.
Maureen
2:10 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I also just want to end by saying that I am so grateful that Mrs. Church is staying at the HS and not being moved to School 3 as originally planned. We finally have someone at the HS that will take our school to the level it should be. You have no idea the mess she had to clean up and is still cleaning up when she arrived there. From what I understand, there were no files or data for her to even work with. Most of her first year was researching and assessing the school. Which she did an amazing job. I had the privelage to sit on the freshman academy committee with her and experience her professionalism and passion for the students, the staff and the school as a whole. She certainley has her job cut out for her, but I have the utmost confindence in her. She has intelligence, strength and grace! I pray we continue to benefit from her expertice for years to come. Its what our children deserve!
Maureen Stitham
Deb Fein
3:49 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I'm with you on that one Maureen. Ms. Church is more than qualified for the job, else she would not have been hired in the first place. Though she came to Fort Lee as an elementary school Principal, she has much experience - more than 30 years - at the higher ed level. She brings a phenomenal combination of practical business experience and a wealth of classroom teaching experience, which is a boon to both the faculty and children that constitute the building.
Mrs. Church has brought positive change to the high school. In the publication of NJ's top 100 schools, we moved from #99 to #77 in just one year. She has brought wonderful academies to the school, which is touted as best practices in large high schools. Her incorporation of constructivist ideas sets her apart as a progressive educator. This will put the high school in even better stead for the future.
Ms. Church;s commitment to the students is beyond reproach and she has put in countless hours of her own time for our children. Ms. Church more than deserved to keep this job, one she loves and that she is undeniably good at. Given time, her ideas will grow even more as she's given the opportunity to build on what she has developed over the past two years.
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Fortlee Jon
2:28 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I missed the meeting, but the public should know that the new law (should be signed by Gov this week) that weakens the power of tenure also applies to administrators. If they receive a poor rating by their direct superior (Supt) they can be removed from their positions in two years. If they are retiring within that time period, I guess you could take a cheap shot at your boss to voice your displeasure, but if you plan on staying around for longer....good luck with that.
Tracy Mattei
3:44 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
@KC
The BOE members are ELECTED by the people of Ft Lee. They do not go into your classrooms and tell you what to do, that connection is flawed. The experts are the Superintendants, BA, Directors, Adminstrators and yes, those people should be telling you what to do. There is always room to learn for all people of all ages and expertise levels. The BOE should be listening to the hired experts, that is where balanced and thoughtful decisions can be carried out.
On the flip side, will a grocery store clerk be employed long or valued as a good employee if they are contnually bashing and disrespecting their employer? Or telling their customers all about how bad it is to work there?
I don't wonder why there is skepticism, go to a BOE mtg and watch the pummeling. That is Ft Lee's staus qou, and it needs to change, working together for a like goal is needed now, more than ever. We have a chance now, a really great opportunity to get better as a SD. I feel obligated to be a proponent of stabilty in the central office FOR our teachers and children--they need to be supported and encouraged to do what they do best- teach. So no more nonesense.
KC
4:17 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Tracy, I agree with you that things need to change and cooperation among all involved in the education of our children would be a dream come true. However, communication is a two-way street and the lines of communication between teachers, administrators, board members, and superintendents have been seriously fractured in FL over the past decade. It would be great to just start from scratch with a clean slate, but a great deal of damage has been done, especially to those who have worked tirelessly for a very long time only to be discounted and disrespected by the people who are supposed to be their "leaders," people who, mind you, have worked in the district for approximately ten minutes or have come and gone in the blink of an eye. I don't disagree with your desire for stability and solidarity, but unfortunately it is impossible for you to know what really goes on on the inside.
My sanitation worker/grocery clerk analogy is being twisted over and over again on this board. I am not insulting their intelligence or contribution to society. I am simply saying that doctors know medicine, lawyers know law, sanitation workers know sanitation, and educators know education. I would never expect any of them to attempt to direct the others' line of work. And even though BOE members don't "evaluate" teachers, they hire the people who do, and their perspective of what goes on in the schools is through those people. So the connection is not flawed; it would be naive not to see it.
Tracy Mattei
8:59 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
@KC I actually cannot debate you at all with the first paragraph of the 4:17 post. Toned down and a bit less emotional, you have explained your beliefs are much more understandable.
Although I still believe the connection of BOE is flawed and the analogy is incorrect, I understand more of your position, and respect that.
We need more support in the classroom for our teachers; they should not feel fearful and should be communicated with and given chances to fix or improve. I will added new teacher support to my quest for a better district-- Thanks you for explaining more.
Tracy Mattei
3:46 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
As far as people being let go---NJ is an 'at will' state, unless you have a contract,( as tenure implies), you can be let go at anytime, from any job, at any level without reason. Now the educational industry doesn't like that but that is life in the Garden State.
You also stated that transfers are not based on performance or the employee--you forgot to mention the needs of the school and the chldren in that school-- a big peice to that strategic puzzle ignored, and that is dangerous!
KC
4:33 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
The fact of the matter is teachers and administrators in New Jersey DO work under a contract. Being let go at any time, from any job, for no reason whatsoever for other industries is not something education should strive to emulate. You can be sure the most experienced, educated, and qualified teachers and admin would be the first to go to save money in school districts across the country... and THAT, Tracy, is dangerous because it is the opposite of what is "best of the children."
Tracy Mattei
9:04 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I have to challenge you on missing the needs of the district and children within the district again, you are focused on the needs of the teachers, and not extending the care to the bigger picture. -- there is no emulation because if you are good, professional and competant, there is no reason for you to fear for your position, its just the way it is.
BTW-- I do do oppose the thought process of removing good teachers and replcing them with cheaper ones--- but I also do not think that is what went on in Ft Lee.
Sam
6:24 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Wow, so I've never posted here and I've been to very few BOE meetings.
My kid goes to school #3 and I feel completely gypped, Kravitz is a fantastic principal and I've not heard great things about the one coming in, but I'll wait and see.
I too find it bizarre that teachers would come to a BOE meeting in Fort Lee and carry on in ANY manner about what is happening. It is simply unacceptable. For me, it tells me that Engravalle has to do the things he does just to be able to show them that he is in charge and he will do what he feels is best.
There are thousands of students in the Fort Lee schools; there were what, 65 people in that room? at least a third of them seemed to be teachers so that leaves us with only a few vocal town folks, really not representative of the schools or the town. It was made quite clear that they expected to hear crap at the meeting and crap online about the move but they went ahead and did it and they will continue to go ahead and do as they seem fit. I felt that the meeting was an utter waste of time.
Toni M.
10:49 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I want to know in what other business can an employee get up and bash it's CEO or howl and cough while he is speaking and not get fired. Oh I know the NJEA cause they're allowed to do whatever the heck they want. Last meeting it was that idiot teacher who got up and sounded like a thug, how dare the Super say "hey how are u." Seriously? If the Super had ignored him, he would be complaining that he was ignored. What other District would hire this guy?
Now this meeting employees are carrying on about being transferred? Guess what, it's allowed. Get used to it. In my company, the directors get transferred every 3 years, often to different countries, so they don't get complacent.
Lisa Salvato
12:10 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I can't believe that guy was a teacher. I was like why is he mad that someone said hi to him. He made no sense.
Ryan
1:05 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I think it was that Engravalle said hello to him all friendly, not realizing he was the one that he fired a few days before. It was kind of a slap in the face.
Luca D.
2:32 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
If the Superintendent did not recognize him, clearly the termination wasn't personal.
oracle
4:17 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Because it seemed that Engravalle was rubbing it in after he just fired him. And Ryan, he just took away someone's livelihood for reasons the public and students are still not aware of, maybe he should remember what he looked like. It was a crappy move, intentional or not.
William Mays
7:12 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Obviously Luca, he recognized him since he sat at the Donaldson hearing with him.
Luca D.
9:21 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Two camps with the first camp alleging that the Superintendent did no know the teacher and the second camp saying he did know the teacher. The only person with that actual knowledge would be the Superintendent. Your speculation, while interesting, is just speculation. There isn't a logical reason to berate your former boss for saying hello other than for purposes of grandstanding.
William Mays
10:12 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Luca, if you had just fired someone, would you go up and just casually say hi to them?
Luca D.
10:22 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Where did you acquire the information that the Superintendent went up to him? I've never fired anyone, so I will not speculate. I have had to acknowledge people that I do not respect or who I have had less than positive interaction. It is called being an adult and a professional.
William Mays
10:34 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
The Bergen Record article. It said that he approached him at the Middle School graduation and said "Hey, how are you doing?" To me that seems like rubbing his firing into his face.
Luca D.
11:21 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I cannot find a culture or universe where how are you doing translates into a snub of some sort. If the teacher interpreted it as a snub, he needs to spend some time in the private sector.
Ryan
11:47 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I know because I was there and saw it. I don't think Engravalle recognized him. But it was like less than a week after the Donaldson hearing. It was kind of a smack in the face... like I don't even take the time to look at the people I fired. Another teacher said that he and Bandlow just walked right past her sitting on hall duty and didn't even say hello or make eye contact... and she was the only one in the hallway. Very rude.
Luca D.
2:43 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Ryan you just proved Toni's point to the extent that the Superintendent will be criticized for acknowledging or not acknowledging an individual.
William Mays
4:42 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Luca, our schools are partly responsible for teaching our children manners. What kind of message does it send when the Superintendent can't take two seconds out of his life to acknowledge someone.
Toni M.
10:56 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012
"Our schools are partly responsible for teaching manners?" What class is that? Before anyone is allowed to attend the BOE meetings, they should have to enroll in that class.
kathryn tessaro
5:20 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Mr Kravitz is an exceptional leader and truly did a great job at school 3.. he made school 3 the place to be with his leadership..I can only hope that his great efforts will continue with Mr Berman and the school will not slide back to what it once wad with poor morale.. Mr kravitz is a great person and a great, professional leader and I can only imagine that the middle school will benefit greatly and pray school 3 stays on a positive path forward.
Tracy Mattei
1:20 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
I find your positive attitude refreshing and in the true spirit of teaching children. Thanks for posting here and I hope you continue to support S3 and its changes.
kathryn tessaro
5:31 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Im not certain of the scandal that Mr Berman was involved with at the hs?
Was this around the grade changing scandal a few years back? If so, how does he still have a job? I'm assuming he was not involved? If anyone knows, please advise as I'm nervous about this change to school 3 and the impact it may have on the school 3 students and teachers.
William Mays
7:11 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
He wasn't involved, but he got fired because Bandlow wanted to seem powerful. He sued the Board of Ed and being the jackasses they are, they didn't want to settle, so he won and got his job and all of the money owed while he was suspended back. They assigned him to the Early Childhood Center with his old salary. He is a good principal, don't worry.
Anna
6:41 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Yes there was grade changing and he was exonerated of responsibility. Huh?
Deb Fein
9:10 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Berman was not an effective Principal which was neither here or there at this point. The fact was that he favored honors students, and perhaps indirectly pushed for higher grades.
William Mays
10:13 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
No, he should favor the people with worse grades, thats the kind of thinking that brings down schools.
Ryan
1:17 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Most of the people on here complain anytime someone says anything bad about Engavalle and why would anyone want to work in this town with these nasty people harassing him. Yet you constantly complain about the teachers and principals. Makes one think why would anyone want to work in this town at all. The teachers complain at meetings because they see one thing at school and then hear another thing at the meeting. It is really hard to keep quiet when you hear lies being spewed. But I agree they shouldn't be bashing Engravalle in public but you cannot group like 4 teachers with the other hundreds that are in Fort Lee. Are there teachers that suck, yes, but there are also a lot of great teachers in our district that work their butts off and get really angry when they read this crap. The board is a joke, they are just there to agree with the superintendent because they have no idea about anything educational. Everyone thinks they can be a teacher and do their job but if you think you can do better then home school your kid. Teachers are heroes on moment and then they next moment they are all horrible and do nothing but complain.
Luca D.
2:31 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
@Ryan, I can't think of any professions that are more important than teachers, yet they must take grief from parents and administrators alike. Thank you for reminding us that we need teachers like we need air, water and shelter. It is easy for us to play Monday morning quarterbacks, but now it's time to focus on the main objectives.
Ryan
11:41 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Everything that we (well most of us) do in that classroom is for the kids. It is not for the administrators or parents, it is for the kids. We want them to learn, become better people, and become an asset to society... and make sure they have fun in the process. And it stinks when you do this and one parent complains and you get fired. But then again... thank god for tenure.
Deb Fein
9:54 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
No, Mr. Mays if that's who you are: the job of a Principal is to help insure ALL the children learn.
William Mays
4:44 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Deb, I'm not saying that he shouldn't ensure that everyone learns, but treating the honors kids in a better way isn't such an offense, considering they're more likely to be successful.
Toni M.
2:47 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Oh GOOD GRIEF. Seriously? Do u read what u type?
CD Cantelli
2:56 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012
Ryan if you read the posts over the past few months you would see that most people were on here trash talking about Engalle in a way I have never seen anyone get trashed. The man couldn't go to the bathroom without someone posting that he took too long. Those of us who were strictly readers of the site started to get pissed. The trashing had nothing to do with his knowledge or expertise. It was crazy and it was clearly personal. What I witnessed was a bunch of self absorbed parents and teachers out for blood.
If the teachers need to complain, they have a format to complain, the union. So file grievances and go according to the steps. They can't skip steps and go right to the board.
Im sure you're right and there are lots of great teachers, but like very business, the great ones don't get noticed and the complainers make everyone look bad. board meetings are not the place for teachers or principals to vent.
Art Elmers
3:03 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Let's not loose sight of what is important here. Our children of Fort Lee deserve the best education that we can give them. We the citizens of Fort Lee need to provide the resources, both human and material, to prepare the next generation for the difficult future ahead.
A pox on all our houses if we can't recognize that, put our differences aside, and work together towards this goal.
It does no good to belittle anyone, whether they be a Parent, Taxpayer, Teacher, Administrator, or Board Member.
While there is always room for honest debate, this is not the time for theatrics, politics, or posturing.
I feel that we have Great Teachers, Principals, and Administrators. They deserve the respect and support of our Board. That being said, the Board has a tough job and always must be aware of their due-diligence responsibilities. I personally know how hard it is sometimes to tackle the tough decisions. Especially when it affects a person's livelyhood. But do it the Board must.
And we must accept that these decisions whether we feel they are for the good of the School District or not. Yes, we can voice our concerns and yes, if we disagree, we can vote for someone else.
I ask all my fellow citizens of Fort Lee to pause, reflect and think about how we can all help our children. Then ask someone you may have passionately disagreed with, to sit down, talk, listen, understand and find common ground. Our children deserve it.
William Mays
7:08 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
We can help our children by getting the current Board out.
Tracy Mattei
1:30 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Art- Thank you !
Deb Fein
8:52 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Mr. Mays: You'd be surprised what children can do when people believe in them. Some are late bloomers, and all have strengths/weaknesses as we all do.
William Mays
10:23 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
I'm not saying that we shouldn't have hope in them, I'm just saying that we should be realistic.
Maureen
1:54 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
@ Billy Mays, your statements in regards to students with learning disabilities are some of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard. George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, Woodrow Wilson, George Patton, Werner Von Braun, John Horner, Henry Winkler, F.W. Woolworth, Charles Schwab, Sir Richard Branson, Ted Turner, Ansel Adams, Pietro Masagni, Hans Christian Anderson, Agatha Christie, Bruce Jenner & Jeffrey Gallet are but just a few that would also disagree with you. They all had learning disabilities and struggled greatly to get through their educations. I shutter to think what would have become of them if the people in their lives had your mentality! Is that realistic enough for you???
Deb Fein
9:11 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
I agree with you Maureen. Mr. Mays, a public school is in operation for the benefit of all the students, not a select group. If so, they might as well be a private school with a selection process.
William Mays
12:22 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012
Congrats, you've named like ten people, some of which haven't done anything good for the world, like Bruce Jenner. Whats he famous for? Being married to a Kardashian? I am not talking about people who have learning disabilities, I'm talking about people who are simply stupid. Anyway, what makes you think Berman favors the honors students?
Maureen
12:27 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012
@ Billy Mays again...this will be my last comment, I unlike you have a life & cannot spend my every waking hour arguing with ignorance. First, I only listed a few people, the list is huge...why don't you do some research, you obviously have the time & you might learn something. Second, every single person that I mentioned has done good for the world including Bruce Jenner who won the triathalon and many gold medals in the Olympics. Third, You must mean people such as yourself when referring to "people that are simply stupid". As far as your question concerning Mr. Berman. My son was a student at the HS under his "regime". I have first hand experience with him, unlike others that only know him from hear say or the past. He was unprofessional & noneffective as the HS principal. He clearly favored honor/AP students and said so publicly on many occasions, such as PTA meetings, etc. My son did not even have a guidance counselor under his regime. There are many other instances too lengthy to list. I will end by saying that even if he was completely innocent of the grade changes, what kind of principal/leader was he that it happened right under his nose??? Good bye Mr. Mays, whoever you are!!!
William Mays
12:24 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012
I think it would be wise to make Superintendent an elected position. We'd save money by not hiring search firms when the Board has already made it's choice.
Johnny mastropirtro
8:30 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012
I worked in fort lee when German was principal of the hs and Maureen is right on. The man is a money grubbing piece of crap. Ask anyone who worked under him at the hs. He was ineffective and an elitist. He collects a huge pension from ny and then comes to work in nj.ask yourself why he didn't stay retired?. Money money money why is this ineffective man still running a school. I'll tell you how to finally get ride of him make him teach 8 graders science to low students I bet he retires real fast. Good luck sch 3. Parents!!
Sam
10:48 am on Monday, July 23, 2012
So, is there any truth to the rumors that Kravitz is going to e superintendent in Englewood Cliffs?
Kelly price
8:43 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
I'm not sure if Mr. Kravitz is leaving but if you look at the district site for employment the district is looking for a middle school principal.
Anna
8:07 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Yes he is leaving as is Albro at the high school
NJ_Mike
4:21 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Kravitz as my son was assigned to a self-contained classroom at S3, due to his learning challenges. It was always clear that Mr. Kravitz not only loved his kids at S3 but that he LOVED making sure his school was providing EVERY child the opportunity to learn; it also appeared that the teachers and administrators at S3 had a great working relationship with him. What a great atmosphere at S3, and it was all his doing. It's been my experience that any workplace is directly affected by the person who is in charge; that person's personality will ultimately permeate a workplace for better or for worse. In the case of Mr. Kravitz it was always upbeat and focused on learning. Everyone knew they were there for the same reason. Very cohesive.
I was very happy to hear he was going to the MS but now sad to hear that indeed he has left. I wish him well taking the top spot with a neighboring school system. He will be the feather in their cap for sure.
Deb Fein
5:13 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Did Albro give a reason for leaving?